Westboro Baptist Church has Lost More Members

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I was the same age as Megan Phelps-Roper when I began questioning everything I’d been raised to believe. And at 27, she has taken a giant step and left Westboro Baptist Church with her sister.

I applaud this woman for this courageous decision. While I do believe her family is absolutely evil, they are still her family. And this choice has left her completely estranged from them. But she still made the right choice, knowing the consequences that would befall.

The act of leaving Westboro is as weird as the church itself. Sometimes it’s described as a shunning process, but that’s not entirely apt. It is, in the eyes of the remaining members, a sort of death, but it’s a gentle one, because the carcass isn’t just dumped or ignored. One church member, who has lost two of his kids to the outside world, told me that he still loved them and that he set them up as best they could with what they’d need to start their new lives—some money, some household goods, even a car.

Megan didn’t leave alone; her sister Grace decided to go with her. They stayed just one night in Topeka. Then, after returning to their family home to retrieve some things they’d not packed the night before—“it was so weird and horrible to ring the doorbell,” Megan says—they left town.

I know from personal experience that it was not an easy choice, and her life was far more insulated than mine. And going public with this decision is even worse. Not only has she isolated herself from her friends and family, but now she has to face the entire world and own up to her past mistakes.

“I definitely regret hurting people,” she says. “That was never our intention. We thought we were doing good. We thought it was the only way to do good. And that’s what I’ve always wanted.”

That’s not how the message was received. “I think I’ve known that for a long time, and I would talk to people about how I knew the message was hurtful,” Megan says. “But I believed it couldn’t matter what people felt. It mattered that this was what God wanted.”

“I don’t feel confident at all in my beliefs about God. That’s definitely scary. But I don’t believe anymore that God hates almost all of mankind. I don’t think that, if you do everything else in your life right and you happen to be gay, you’re automatically going to hell. I don’t believe anymore that WBC has a monopoly on truth.”

This girl is pretty amazing, if you ask me.

And according to other sources, there have been other members of WBC who have decided to pull away from the church as well.

Little by little, chinks in the armor of the WBC are showing. Eventually there will be nothing left. It’s taken years, but the younger generation is finally starting to see that what they’re being taught simply doesn’t make sense. There is still hope.

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The Afterlife

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There are way too many quotable quotes in this new video by The Thinking Atheist. It covers everything from how believing in eternal life diminishes humanity to how all of us are physically immortal because we came from stardust and will be stardust again.

It’s truly inspiring.

 


The Kind You Hear About – And the Kind You Don’t

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Bruce Grierson has had an article called The Atheist at the Breakfast Table published in Psychology Today.

It’s risky to say anything categorically about atheists – for a more individualistic bunch would be hard to find. But let’s propose that there are two kinds of atheists: the kind you hear about, and the kind you don’t.

This is undeniably true. I think of myself as falling into the latter category. I am no activist. I’m certainly not militant in my beliefs.The most I do is occasionally blog about my beliefs or post things I find interesting on Facebook.

I highly recommend you click through and read the entire article on Mr. Grierson’s blog. As Hemant noted:

It’s not very often that we see an article actually humanizing Humanists in a mainstream publication. This is a good one, though.


So Why Do Atheists Spend So Much Time Trying To Debunk Religion?

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The question in this post title is one of the questions that bugs me oh so much when it comes from anyone – but especially from a Christian.

My friend Donny posted a link on his wall to an old post from the Orthodox Presbyterian Church. Not even halfway through the article, the author succeeded in irritating me by asking:

What makes Dawkins and Hitchens so fascinating, however, is not so much the tightness of their logical argumentation or their marshalling of empirical evidence, but the force and power with which they make their cases against religion. Why spend so much time proving the nonexistence of something? Why not do something more constructive with life? Why not build bridges or run marathons or even collect string? Devotion to the debunking of that which does not exist is a strange and parasitic activity. After all, I don’t believe in unicorns or the tooth fairy, but I really do not have the time or the energy to write long books articulating my position and ridiculing those who hold such beliefs.

Not only is that ridiculously condescending, but it’s also so full of hypocrisy that it seems Christians just can’t see.

Donny asked me to explain it because he couldn’t see it. I answered:

 You spend all (or most) of your time going around the country speaking about something you are passionate about. About something you believe in so deeply that it is fundamentally a part of who you are.

Dawkins and Harris and Hitchens (when he was still alive) do (did) the very same thing. Yet, it’s somehow wrong for them to do so?

How do you not see the hypocrisy there?

That explanation did nothing to persuade him of the hypocrisy of his perspective, so I further responded:

And that baffles me. Truly.

Prominent atheists are trying to change the world. (Hey, isn’t that what you’re trying to do?)

The thing is, atheism doesn’t want to take your beliefs away from you. There are two things happening in the secular movement. First, the movement as a whole simply seeks to make it okay for me to not believe. There are those who believe that because I am an atheist, I am not American. There are those who believe that this country should be governed by Christian beliefs and the Bible. The secular movement seeks to stop that from happening by making the government separate from religion, providing freedom and equal footing for everyone. Most of the Christian community does not seek that (though some do).

And secondly, many atheists believe that religion causes harm to society. And they write books about it to raise awareness about it. There are those who wish to eradicate religion because they believe the world would be a better place without it. They look at religion and see children dying because the family refused medical treatment in lieu of prayer and faith healers. They look at wars that have been fought over religion. They look at the way homosexuals are dehumanized and belittled by many as a result of religious belief. And rather than remain silent about it, they stand up and say something about it.

How is that a bad thing? Why does that not make sense to those of you who choose to dedicate your lives to teaching and converting people to believe in something no one can see because you believe it makes the world a better place?

And once again, he still couldn’t see it. I really don’t know how to explain it any further. The conversation degenerated from there into a discussion about whether or not wars are really fueled by religion and how many people have died as a result of atheist regimes – discussions that are easy to get caught up in but have little to no bearing on the question at hand.

The fact of the matter is that Christians look down on atheists for standing up for what they believe is right. And until they can see that they are seeking to silence a group of people who employ some of the same methods as Christians (ie speaking publicly, writing books, creating groups on campuses), they will never understand why I look at the conversation and see hypocrisy.


You Are What You Claim to Hate

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This is one of the most articulate and well-thought out responses I’ve seen or heard to a fundamentalist pastor and the evangelical Christian thinking that is prevalent in the conservative Right.

I’m definitely looking forward to discussions on this one. :)

 



You Won’t Believe What Great Grandma Didn’t

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There’s a fairly new book out called Letters from an Atheist Nation: Godless Voices of America in 1903. How cool is that? It reprints articles from the Blue Grass Blade, a free-thought newspaper from the turn of the century.


In 1903, the “Blue Grass Blade,” a Kentucky/Ohio-based freethought newspaper, which started as the only Prohibition newspaper edited by “a Heathen in the interest of good morals,” requested letters from its readers describing how and why they had become atheists. Lawson has meticulously transcribed these letters from the digitized copies available at the Library of Congress’s “Chronicling America” website and has edited them for a 21st-century audience. He touches on the stigma that has been placed on atheism in America and why atheists feel they have to hide their true personalities from their closest friends and family. Like today’s atheists, the writers of these letters hid behind initials and “nom de plumes,” and Lawson has done us a great service by deciphering many of the letter writers’ mysterious pseudonyms to reveal their true identities. Will you find a branch of atheism in YOUR family tree?

The phrases and voices in these letters are over one hundred years old, but the thoughts and sentiments have changed very little, unlike the dogmas and doctrines they were hoping their descendants would have abandoned by now. Their thoughts could be pulled from the latest blogs of non-believers, but these are not merely letters from scientists, scholars, or intimidating intelligentsia, no, these are personal revelations from physicians, lawyers, dentists, veterans, pioneers, settlers, farmers, tradespeople, teenagers, and housewives. These letters are ironically Bible-like in that they are lyrical, repetitive, prophetic, and poetic, but the “revelation” will be left to the reader. If these century-old thoughts sound familiar, it would appear that there is nothing new about OUR century’s “new” atheism.

I didn’t know that there were people who stood up for reason and rational thought at the turn of the century. Though it makes sense – people stood against slavery and for the rights of women; why wouldn’t they also stand against religion and irrational thought?*

 

*Note: I am not saying here that the same group of people did all three, only that people were willing to stand for what they believed in.

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The Concept of Proof

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I’ve been having a conversation with one of my Christian Facebook friends about evidence. He freely admitted that there is no concrete evidence for the existence of a God.

Then he followed it up with that tired argument, “You can’t prove love at all, either.”

And while I know that’s a terrible argument, I found myself in the position where I was unable to verbalize why.

And I can’t very well say “You’re wrong because I know you are.” That’s the kind of circular logic that is so frustrating from the Christian side. So I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about this topic, and talking to my best friend about it, trying to come up with the words to explain what I mean.

What it boils down to is that whether you can or can’t prove love (you can, by the way, but I’ll get to that shortly) it has no bearing on whether or not you can prove God. It’s completely irrelevant to the conversation.

There is no evidence for God.

If you can show me some, I will consider it. But you can’t, because there is none.

As far as love goes…

Actually, I’m just going to post what someone else has said on this matter, because it’s eloquent and succinct and is far better than anything I could come up with on my own.

This is a very silly argument; it fails utterly. First of all, love isn’t unprovable. Sure, it’s can’t really be defined perfectly, but if there are happy, committed relationships, then that’s love and it’s real. QED.

Most importantly, even if the claim, “Love is unprovable but we know it exists,” were true, it would be totally irrelevant to whether or not God exists. Let me paraphrase the questioner’s argument:

There exists one thing whose existence can’t be proved; therefore God, whose existence can’t be proved, exists.

This is nonsense! The conclusion doesn’t follow from the premise.

At best, the existence of some unprovable thing, X, proves only that unprovable things can exist. Thus, if God’s existence or nonexistence is unprovable, then the existence of X thing means only that God might, or might not, exist. In fact, whether or not X exists, God might or might not exist. So, the existence or non-existence of X basically has no bearing on whether God exists or not.

Last but not least, this argument attempts to show that an unprovable God exists. Leaving aside the obvious paradox, let’s say that God’s existence isn’t practically provable. This means that there is no reasonable expectation that anyone will ever see something for which the best explanation was God (if someone saw such a thing then s/he would have evidence for God’s existence, which would invalidate the assumption of unprovability). In other words, for anything I might ever see, there will always be a better explanation than God.

So, the God of the Bible couldn’t be unprovable. That God interacts with the world, as through prayer, the holy ghost, etc etc.

Finally, it’s also worth pointing out that the argument uses the idea that God’s existence can’t be proven to prove that God exists. So if the argument succeeds in proving God’s existence, then it has invalidated its own premise.

Let’s review our assessment of the argument:

  1. The premise is false.
  2. Even if the premise were true, the conclusion would not be proven.
  3. If the conclusion were valid, then the argument would be invalid.
  4. Even if the conclusion were proven, it wouldn’t apply to the Christian God.

By now it should be easy to see why this is an utter failure of an argument.

So yeah… pretty much what Mr. George Locke said.


Reason Rally Recap Video

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I love this recap video of the Reason Rally by The Thinking Atheist (and by the way, you can see the back of my head at 6:26):

“I can tell you there is no feeling like it: standing shoulder to shoulder with people who get it. Who aren’t standing in judgement of you because you have a mind of your own. Who join you in the rejection of the irrational, the false, the destructive, and the just plain crazy. And who cheer scientists, and rationalists, and educators the way others cheer for musicians and movie stars. It was amazing!”

“It was about the value of living honestly. It was about education, science, and common sense. It was about protecting our politics and our science textbooks from fairy tales and fantasy. It was about connection and community. It was about people, tens of thousands of people, secular human beings who came together to represent an even larger group of secular men, women, and young people. Looking each other in the eye and reminding each other it’s okay to be skeptical; to be an individual; to be comfortable in your own skin; to live your life honestly; to follow the facts, wherever they lead; to speak out against ignorance, dogma, deception, and hate; to stand up for reason.”

This is why we gathered.


Self-Reflection and (non)Belief

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A very long time ago, I created this blog in my quest to find my voice and truly understand what I believe and why.

It was one of the best things I’ve ever done in my entire life. This blog took me through the journey to become a better Christian, to understand why I was a Christian, and it helped me learn what I thought were the truths of the Bible.

The deeper I studied, the more self-aware I became, and the more self-reflection this blog prompted pushed me further down the path I am now on.

I became an atheist.

And then I promptly stopped all of that writing and self-reflection. There were various reasons for it, but I realized something last weekend when I was at the Reason Rally.

I am now pretty much where I was when I started this blog six years ago. I know I am an atheist. But if you asked me why, I would be hard pressed to give a coherent and logical answer.

I attempted to answer this question over on PZ Myers’ blog:

I am an atheist because I no longer blindly accept what people tell me. I used to be a conservative, practically fundamentalist, Christian. I was raised that way and never thought to question it. Then I started blogging. I made a Christian blog and arrogantly thought that I could convert the world. I ended up meeting a whole host of people who believed differently than I did, but the really crazy thing was that they weren’t demonic or evil the way my pastor always depicted them! Once I realized that they really were just people like me, I began to question everything I’d ever been taught. It took me two long and painful years to finally accept what I’d come to know – there is no God.

But that’s a surface answer. I can’t hold my own in a conversation about atheism vs. religion. I can’t give coherent answers that debunk religion. And I have been content to stay this way. It’s easy to say “I am an atheist” and then carefully tread the line so as not to offend the many Christian friends I have on Facebook. But… that’s not the kind of person I want to be.

I am smarter than that.

So, this is me opening my blog back up for self-reflection. It’s time I take a stand for the things I say I believe. And it’s time for me to intellectually understand what it is that I believe (or rather – don’t believe).

Won’t you join me?