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		<title>By: Lifewish</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2012/04/03/creationist-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-12717</link>
		<dc:creator>Lifewish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Incidentally... Donny, what is your standard of evidence for saying this claim is daft?

Apropos of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mandikaye.com/2012/03/31/the-concept-of-proof/comment-page-1/#comment-12554&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;your comment&lt;/a&gt; on the &quot;Concept of Proof&quot; thread, couldn&#039;t Dr Kent simply say that &quot;one group attributes a body of evidence to the existence of fire-breathing dinosaurs while the other does not&quot;?

This is one example of a general issue: once you&#039;ve accepted belief in God, what is your justification for not also accepting &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;invisible pink unicorns&lt;/a&gt;, or what have you?  I haven&#039;t been able to find a good demarcation criterion so far - any standard of evidence that excludes the IPU also seems to exclude God.  Will be interested to know if you have any suggestions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally&#8230; Donny, what is your standard of evidence for saying this claim is daft?</p>
<p>Apropos of <a href="http://www.mandikaye.com/2012/03/31/the-concept-of-proof/comment-page-1/#comment-12554" rel="nofollow">your comment</a> on the &#8220;Concept of Proof&#8221; thread, couldn&#8217;t Dr Kent simply say that &#8220;one group attributes a body of evidence to the existence of fire-breathing dinosaurs while the other does not&#8221;?</p>
<p>This is one example of a general issue: once you&#8217;ve accepted belief in God, what is your justification for not also accepting <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Pink_Unicorn" rel="nofollow">invisible pink unicorns</a>, or what have you?  I haven&#8217;t been able to find a good demarcation criterion so far &#8211; any standard of evidence that excludes the IPU also seems to exclude God.  Will be interested to know if you have any suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: Lifewish</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2012/04/03/creationist-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-12602</link>
		<dc:creator>Lifewish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 00:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, link should go &lt;a href=&quot;http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7929.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, link should go <a href="http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7929.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Lifewish</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2012/04/03/creationist-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-12601</link>
		<dc:creator>Lifewish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 00:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No kidding.  Unfortunately, that kind of barminess is more common than you&#039;d think.

My suspicion is that the good doctor is a &lt;a href=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bullshitter&lt;/a&gt;, in the technical sense.  On some level he really doesn&#039;t care whether his belief is true or not; what he cares about is defending it to the world.  If he&#039;s smacked down in debate, I imagine he just uses that to feed a persecution complex.

Retirees seem more prone to this for some reason.  Here in the UK there&#039;s a retired actuary who keeps turning up to professional events and announcing his amazing plan for saving the UK pensions industry.  As far as anyone can tell, the plan wouldn&#039;t solve a damn thing, but he&#039;s clearly too attached to it to ever accept that.  I always feel quite sorry for him.

Of course, feeling sorry for someone is a luxury permitted by their complete failure to convince anyone else.  Sadly, the Ken Hams of this world seem to be doing rather well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No kidding.  Unfortunately, that kind of barminess is more common than you&#8217;d think.</p>
<p>My suspicion is that the good doctor is a <a href="" rel="nofollow">bullshitter</a>, in the technical sense.  On some level he really doesn&#8217;t care whether his belief is true or not; what he cares about is defending it to the world.  If he&#8217;s smacked down in debate, I imagine he just uses that to feed a persecution complex.</p>
<p>Retirees seem more prone to this for some reason.  Here in the UK there&#8217;s a retired actuary who keeps turning up to professional events and announcing his amazing plan for saving the UK pensions industry.  As far as anyone can tell, the plan wouldn&#8217;t solve a damn thing, but he&#8217;s clearly too attached to it to ever accept that.  I always feel quite sorry for him.</p>
<p>Of course, feeling sorry for someone is a luxury permitted by their complete failure to convince anyone else.  Sadly, the Ken Hams of this world seem to be doing rather well.</p>
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		<title>By: Donny Pauling</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2012/04/03/creationist-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-12598</link>
		<dc:creator>Donny Pauling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 16:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for finding that.  It is beyond absurd that a &quot;retired medical doctor&quot; would believe &quot;This faster breathing would have caused their nostrils to become quite hot due to the rapid passage of air through their proportionally small nostrils.&quot;

What the heck?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for finding that.  It is beyond absurd that a &#8220;retired medical doctor&#8221; would believe &#8220;This faster breathing would have caused their nostrils to become quite hot due to the rapid passage of air through their proportionally small nostrils.&#8221;</p>
<p>What the heck?</p>
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		<title>By: Lifewish</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2012/04/03/creationist-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-12596</link>
		<dc:creator>Lifewish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 23:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You didn&#039;t look hard enough.  There&#039;s a description of it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freechristianteaching.org/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=32&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  It&#039;s just below the image of the fly in amber.

Other creationists such as Ken Ham &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.answersingenesis.org/media/audio/answers-daily/volume-083/fire-breathing-dragons&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;say the same thing&lt;/a&gt; about fire-breathing dragons.  So this is not just a lone crazy creationist; it&#039;s the entire frickin&#039; YEC movement.

I actually thought the comment that &quot;no-one has discovered one element changing into another&quot; was worse than the firebreathing dinos.  I literally had to cover my eyes and whimper quietly for a minute when I heard that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didn&#8217;t look hard enough.  There&#8217;s a description of it <a href="http://www.freechristianteaching.org/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=32" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  It&#8217;s just below the image of the fly in amber.</p>
<p>Other creationists such as Ken Ham <a href="http://www.answersingenesis.org/media/audio/answers-daily/volume-083/fire-breathing-dragons" rel="nofollow">say the same thing</a> about fire-breathing dragons.  So this is not just a lone crazy creationist; it&#8217;s the entire frickin&#8217; YEC movement.</p>
<p>I actually thought the comment that &#8220;no-one has discovered one element changing into another&#8221; was worse than the firebreathing dinos.  I literally had to cover my eyes and whimper quietly for a minute when I heard that.</p>
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		<title>By: Donny Pauling</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2012/04/03/creationist-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-12594</link>
		<dc:creator>Donny Pauling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just searched through his website.  I cannot find any place where he repeats the &quot;fire breathing&quot; comments. Again, it seems pretty clear he was making a joke.

It&#039;s annoying when one group of people tries to poke fun at another over things that don&#039;t exist.  The &quot;big moment&quot; in that video, in which the presenter wants us to make sure we&#039;re seated, turns out to be an attempt at humor.  What an idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just searched through his website.  I cannot find any place where he repeats the &#8220;fire breathing&#8221; comments. Again, it seems pretty clear he was making a joke.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s annoying when one group of people tries to poke fun at another over things that don&#8217;t exist.  The &#8220;big moment&#8221; in that video, in which the presenter wants us to make sure we&#8217;re seated, turns out to be an attempt at humor.  What an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Donny Pauling</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2012/04/03/creationist-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-12593</link>
		<dc:creator>Donny Pauling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never believed any of those things (except the 6 day creation when I was very young).  

And I am pretty sure he was making an attempt at humor with the fire breathing part, thus the snickering from the other man and the smile on the presenter&#039;s face.  Don&#039;t tell me atheism demands a loss of sense of humor, too?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never believed any of those things (except the 6 day creation when I was very young).  </p>
<p>And I am pretty sure he was making an attempt at humor with the fire breathing part, thus the snickering from the other man and the smile on the presenter&#8217;s face.  Don&#8217;t tell me atheism demands a loss of sense of humor, too?</p>
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