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		<title>By: Cyril Klohe</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2007/08/17/russias-unusual-holiday/comment-page-2/#comment-12841</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyril Klohe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 19:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well I definitely enjoyed studying it. This post provided by you is very useful for good planning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I definitely enjoyed studying it. This post provided by you is very useful for good planning.</p>
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		<title>By: Please Post - Misc at MInTheGap</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2007/08/17/russias-unusual-holiday/comment-page-2/#comment-2663</link>
		<dc:creator>Please Post - Misc at MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.mandikaye.com/2007/08/17/russias-unusual-holiday/#comment-2663</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[...] From here the conversation with Techskeptic degrades into name calling, mischaracterized and crazy logic. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] From here the conversation with Techskeptic degrades into name calling, mischaracterized and crazy logic. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Please Post - Chapter 6 &#38; 7 at MInTheGap</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2007/08/17/russias-unusual-holiday/comment-page-2/#comment-2651</link>
		<dc:creator>Please Post - Chapter 6 &#38; 7 at MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Techskeptic likes to ask me questions that I&#8217;ve never talked about in this discussion: Please explain to me how you can be want to force women to bear unwanted babies, but are OK with in vitro fertilization (I am assuming that because you didn&#8217;t gripe about it before). [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Techskeptic likes to ask me questions that I&#8217;ve never talked about in this discussion: Please explain to me how you can be want to force women to bear unwanted babies, but are OK with in vitro fertilization (I am assuming that because you didn&#8217;t gripe about it before). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Please Post - Chapter 5 at MInTheGap</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2007/08/17/russias-unusual-holiday/comment-page-1/#comment-2623</link>
		<dc:creator>Please Post - Chapter 5 at MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Next, Techskeptic takes a swipe at me personally: Please explain to me how you are not a total hypocrite since you have not adopted a child to help reduce to problem associated with bringing unwanted pregnancies to term. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Next, Techskeptic takes a swipe at me personally: Please explain to me how you are not a total hypocrite since you have not adopted a child to help reduce to problem associated with bringing unwanted pregnancies to term. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Please Post - Chapter 3 at MInTheGap</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2007/08/17/russias-unusual-holiday/comment-page-1/#comment-2553</link>
		<dc:creator>Please Post - Chapter 3 at MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Techskeptic doesn&#8217;t believe that abstinence education works. He wants me to post links proving that it does. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Techskeptic doesn&#8217;t believe that abstinence education works. He wants me to post links proving that it does. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Please Post - Chapter 2 at MInTheGap</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2007/08/17/russias-unusual-holiday/comment-page-1/#comment-2535</link>
		<dc:creator>Please Post - Chapter 2 at MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Techskeptic wants to know: Please post data where you think these doctors are making huge amounts of money on abortions specifically (as opposed to having a practice that makes money that happens to also provide abortions) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Techskeptic wants to know: Please post data where you think these doctors are making huge amounts of money on abortions specifically (as opposed to having a practice that makes money that happens to also provide abortions) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Please Post - Chapter 1 at MInTheGap</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2007/08/17/russias-unusual-holiday/comment-page-1/#comment-2524</link>
		<dc:creator>Please Post - Chapter 1 at MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] He asked: [W]here in the [B]bible does it say that life starts at conception? [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: techskeptic</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2007/08/17/russias-unusual-holiday/comment-page-1/#comment-2509</link>
		<dc:creator>techskeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Min, 

Dont think I have not noticed your style of &quot;debate&quot;. You make a statement and then dont back it up and &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; data. Then you do it again. Even when I call you out on it. 

Then you don&#039;t respond to anything people who are debating with you about.

Please post the passages in the bible that says that life starts at &lt;i&gt;conception&lt;/i&gt;, as opposed to &#039;some time during pregnancy&#039;.

Please post data where you think these doctors are making huge amounts of money on abortions specifically (as opposed to having a practice that makes money that happens to also provide abortions)

Please post data that supports your assertion that AO programs work.

Please post data that supports your assertion that if women who had abortions were not allowed to have them, then they would parent the child happily (as opposed to folks who had unwanted pregnancies but were already against abortion- a very differnt set of people)

Please explain to me how you are not a total hypocrite since you have not adopted a child to help reduce to problem associated with bringing unwanted pregnancies to term.

Please explain to me how you can be want to force women to bear unwanted babies, but are OK with in vitro fertilization (I am assuming that because you didnt gripe about it before).

Please explain how an abortion is any different than the results of in vitro fertilization.

Please show me where you read that Plan B is to be taken &lt;i&gt;6 weeks&lt;/i&gt; after fertilization? Please show me where you read that ru486 is to be taken no less than 6 weeks after fertilization.

When you make a statement in an online debate, support your facts. Otherwise you just look like a foolish child, pontificating from ignorance.

 Its truly unbelievable that you don&#039;t see unwanted pregnancy as the problem and that abortions are. I mean talk about digging you head in the sand! If you fix unwanted pregnancy then abortions stop. If you fix abortions then unwanted pregnancies do not stop. As far as I can tell you are just dimwitted if you can&#039;t see that. I&#039;m with Musicguy discussing this with you is truly like yelling at the TV.

I was thinking about your silly assertion that Abstinence only programs work. 

The abstinence only version  of pregnancy prevention:

&quot;Dont have sex and you wont get pregnant&quot;

The abstinence only version of Obesity control

&quot;Dont eat and you wont get fat&quot;

The Abstinence only version to reduce drug use

&quot;Dont do drugs and you wont OD&quot;

The abstienence only version of reducing smoking

&quot;dont smoke and you wont get tobacco related lung cancer&quot;

Oh man I could go on forever.... do you see what ALL of these ridiculous &#039;programs&#039; have in common? &lt;i&gt;they all completely ignore the reasons why the bad behavior is there in the first place&lt;/i&gt;

As long as you are telling kids not to have sex, forming promise keeping groups and other nonsense you are totally ignoring the biological, societal and psychological reasons that the kids are having unsafe sex in the first place. And then when they go ahead and break those promises or think they are in love and it ok to go... they do it in an unsafe manner! Its a totally stupid concept!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Min, </p>
<p>Dont think I have not noticed your style of &#8220;debate&#8221;. You make a statement and then dont back it up and <i>any</i> data. Then you do it again. Even when I call you out on it. </p>
<p>Then you don&#8217;t respond to anything people who are debating with you about.</p>
<p>Please post the passages in the bible that says that life starts at <i>conception</i>, as opposed to &#8216;some time during pregnancy&#8217;.</p>
<p>Please post data where you think these doctors are making huge amounts of money on abortions specifically (as opposed to having a practice that makes money that happens to also provide abortions)</p>
<p>Please post data that supports your assertion that AO programs work.</p>
<p>Please post data that supports your assertion that if women who had abortions were not allowed to have them, then they would parent the child happily (as opposed to folks who had unwanted pregnancies but were already against abortion- a very differnt set of people)</p>
<p>Please explain to me how you are not a total hypocrite since you have not adopted a child to help reduce to problem associated with bringing unwanted pregnancies to term.</p>
<p>Please explain to me how you can be want to force women to bear unwanted babies, but are OK with in vitro fertilization (I am assuming that because you didnt gripe about it before).</p>
<p>Please explain how an abortion is any different than the results of in vitro fertilization.</p>
<p>Please show me where you read that Plan B is to be taken <i>6 weeks</i> after fertilization? Please show me where you read that ru486 is to be taken no less than 6 weeks after fertilization.</p>
<p>When you make a statement in an online debate, support your facts. Otherwise you just look like a foolish child, pontificating from ignorance.</p>
<p> Its truly unbelievable that you don&#8217;t see unwanted pregnancy as the problem and that abortions are. I mean talk about digging you head in the sand! If you fix unwanted pregnancy then abortions stop. If you fix abortions then unwanted pregnancies do not stop. As far as I can tell you are just dimwitted if you can&#8217;t see that. I&#8217;m with Musicguy discussing this with you is truly like yelling at the TV.</p>
<p>I was thinking about your silly assertion that Abstinence only programs work. </p>
<p>The abstinence only version  of pregnancy prevention:</p>
<p>&#8220;Dont have sex and you wont get pregnant&#8221;</p>
<p>The abstinence only version of Obesity control</p>
<p>&#8220;Dont eat and you wont get fat&#8221;</p>
<p>The Abstinence only version to reduce drug use</p>
<p>&#8220;Dont do drugs and you wont OD&#8221;</p>
<p>The abstienence only version of reducing smoking</p>
<p>&#8220;dont smoke and you wont get tobacco related lung cancer&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh man I could go on forever&#8230;. do you see what ALL of these ridiculous &#8216;programs&#8217; have in common? <i>they all completely ignore the reasons why the bad behavior is there in the first place</i></p>
<p>As long as you are telling kids not to have sex, forming promise keeping groups and other nonsense you are totally ignoring the biological, societal and psychological reasons that the kids are having unsafe sex in the first place. And then when they go ahead and break those promises or think they are in love and it ok to go&#8230; they do it in an unsafe manner! Its a totally stupid concept!</p>
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		<title>By: But Abstinence Education Doesn&#8217;t Work! at MInTheGap</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2007/08/17/russias-unusual-holiday/comment-page-1/#comment-2471</link>
		<dc:creator>But Abstinence Education Doesn&#8217;t Work! at MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] still amused.&#160; A post on Russia&#8217;s &#8220;Day of Conception&#8221; just keeps on going.&#160; The latest set of arguments has nothing to do about what the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] still amused.&nbsp; A post on Russia&#8217;s &#8220;Day of Conception&#8221; just keeps on going.&nbsp; The latest set of arguments has nothing to do about what the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MInTheGap</title>
		<link>http://mandikaye.com/2007/08/17/russias-unusual-holiday/comment-page-1/#comment-2463</link>
		<dc:creator>MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right about the date of heartbeat, Musicguy, but your stats don&#039;t reflect when abortion is done.

Abortion clinics state that no abortions occur before six weeks, and most do not occur until the baby&#039;s eighth week of development.  Even when pregnancies are detected earlier, operators want to make sure the unborn is large enough to do a proper inventory of his severed body parts.  (A hand or leg inadvertently left in the mother will cause a dangerous infection.)

Beating heart at 21 days and brain waves at 40 days-- each of these is present in every abortion.

You don&#039;t know that it will be legal for a long time-- look how slavery was changed in a short time and that&#039;s nothing compared to this tragedy.

And if SCOTUS did change, it would then go back to the states.

Again, I repeat, it&#039;s a poor argument to say &quot;people are going to do it anyway&quot; to justify condoning-- nay, encouraging-- infant homicide.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right about the date of heartbeat, Musicguy, but your stats don&#8217;t reflect when abortion is done.</p>
<p>Abortion clinics state that no abortions occur before six weeks, and most do not occur until the baby&#8217;s eighth week of development.  Even when pregnancies are detected earlier, operators want to make sure the unborn is large enough to do a proper inventory of his severed body parts.  (A hand or leg inadvertently left in the mother will cause a dangerous infection.)</p>
<p>Beating heart at 21 days and brain waves at 40 days&#8211; each of these is present in every abortion.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t know that it will be legal for a long time&#8211; look how slavery was changed in a short time and that&#8217;s nothing compared to this tragedy.</p>
<p>And if SCOTUS did change, it would then go back to the states.</p>
<p>Again, I repeat, it&#8217;s a poor argument to say &#8220;people are going to do it anyway&#8221; to justify condoning&#8211; nay, encouraging&#8211; infant homicide.</p>
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